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Old July 3rd, 2007   #1 (permalink)
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Is there anyone here that got into the beta, and doesn't like it so far?

If so, why? What are the main problems?
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Hmm, i like the equipment such as the weaponry and what you can do with each class, but the vehicles do make the game a bore.......
I really hate to say it, as i've been a key person to want this to come out since 2006, but the vehicles make the game aweful to play in. I will say it time after time, because they are NOT smooth to drive a vehicle at all.
The vehicles in BF2142, look and run well when you are driving it, and you can change camera angle, which should be added into a game like quake wars to be honest.
I can drive the GDF hummer (as i call it) Dont use the technical name for it at the mo lol, and i can go into a speed boost, and you have NO control over it, and your not going at an amazingly fast speed what so ever! You turn once in boost, and you'll hit something and just flip over.

HOWEVER, the designed are great, but the feel of the vehicles suck.
They needs to be more to them, such as the walker (cyclops i think its called), well, i've had it randomly crouch down for NO apparently reason, and theres nothing to it, you can walk around which makes you feel sick looking at the screen, and theres no secondry weapon at all, you just have your mouse 1 button which will shoot one rocket at a time, unlike BF2142 (sorry im having to compare it to BF2142, but it's all i really play FPS wise now) the walker has mouse 1 with machine gun and mouse 2 as a rocket shooter, and a second person for air defence mainly.
The walker needs improvement thats for sure, along with the feel of the vehicles.

The hoverpack, is the only thing i like to use, as there is no visual disapointment to it.

The weapons for the strogg are abit, over powered and accurate, which CAN be acceptable if you think of it being in the future and being an advanced race, but really, they need to make it fair.
The turrets are amazing, and the rest of the deployables, i could just use that all day each round. As it is a joy to use.
The sniper for the GDF is good when used CORRECTLY, but, seriously, future or past, who has a crosshair with no middle to it?
Theres a box where you have to guess where the middle of the sniper is, thats just really pathetic, you cant make a rifle like this anywhere, you want to win against the strogg invasion, not get owned!
SplashDamage need to DEFINATLY 100% fix that as it is a waste of time being a sniper if you have no crosshair whilst in aim.
It's simular to this, but this is the rocket launcher for the gdf.


Sorry for the big pic.

Thats how i feel about the game, SplashDamage should make the game with a OPTION of infantry only aswell as with these aweful vehicles.

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Default Re: Anyone NOT like this yet?

Also, to nag on again, it is pretty much the original enemy territory made 5 years ago or so, got the same rubbish firesquad which NO ONE ever really uses it to an advantage anyways.
They need to add in VoIP into the game, and have proper squads like BF2142.

Give the player more to do for excitement for winning, not give the player the standard crap from the original.
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Ouch what about the objectives in this one map - does it really bring a deeper level of strats to game play?
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They need to add in VoIP into the game, and have proper squads like BF2142.
http://community.enemyterritory.com/...5380#post55380
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For me the difference between BF2142 and ETQW is simple the most basic game play. Anyone can remember the Assault mode on UT? Team A attacks, team B defends. Simple. You have to jump through a series of hoops to get to the end, to actually win. In BF2142 you have the same thing over and over. Get to a point, capture it, and then capture the other points as well, while technically defending the one you just captured. Maps like Cerebre Landing or Camp Gibraltar are so popular becuase they have a feeling almost close to those objectives, as you advance from a starting point to the end of it. But of course the ability to capture a backwards flag at any give point in time, makes the whole thing a bit less interesting.

I have to agree an the vehicles. They all are in essence terrible. A tank getting shot to pieces with a pistol... erm right. The Icarus (Strogg jetpack/hoverpack thing) is so damn fast that it is virtually impossible to do anything against it. Out in the open you might catch it with a nice titan shell, but indoors, you are at its mercy, fully.

The game is fun in a lot of ways, but also has a lot of down sides. If they tweak it some more, specially the vehicles to feel more like vehicles and less like tin cans, it would be an extremely satisfying game, both action and strategically oriented.
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I am very disappointed, I thought it would be so much better, it's only a beta though, so it can chance, but the main things I hate are the following.

Graphics: They plainly suck on any detail level. If I use AA to make it smooth my frames will drop from 30 to 5-10.

Vehicles: All vehicles have poor controls and are just annoying except for Icarus and Tormentor.

Speed: Although I liked the super speed of W:ET, it's just ridiculous in ET:QW, you can't hit anything when people are side strafing because of the 30 fps barrier and latency.

No ALT TAB: Need I say more?

Restart game to change video settings

No joystick support


And worst of all, the lock ups!:
My video card somehow likes to make its drivers to go a infinite loop, it happens very rarely in BF2142 and most other games, and most of the time it will just go loop sound and then back in the game. But in ET:QW I can't play more than 5 minutes before I have to ctrl-alt-del and kill it because it just dies. The only game I have had similar problems with is CoH and it freezes much more rarely than ET:QW.


As said, very disappointed, had been looking forward for this
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The main things that I'd like to see improved are the netcode/hit detection,sounds and vehicles.These are the areas that need some serious work.Currently,shooting needs a lot of prediction and I'd be great if it was something like ET where your bullets land where you want them to.The secondary thing would be adding VOIP,improve the XP spread and make the stats a bit more expanded like K/D ratios etc.Other than that,everything else seems OK IMO.
I like the gameplay,its fast enough to not feel stale and with the right people teamworking is fun.The BETA client 2 seems will have the Valley map,which is a bit bigger and will have more vehicles in it.Lets see how that one plays,cant wait for it.

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And worst of all, the lock ups!:
My video card somehow likes to make its drivers to go a infinite loop, it happens very rarely in BF2142 and most other games, and most of the time it will just go loop sound and then back in the game. But in ET:QW I can't play more than 5 minutes before I have to ctrl-alt-del and kill it because it just dies. The only game I have had similar problems with is CoH and it freezes much more rarely than ET:QW.
I seem to have the problem where my graphics will freeze every say, 20 seconds, for about half a second, and i have over the requirements, which is very odd, and have reformatted.

Quite simply, its a beta not the full game, but if they do NOT do anything about these points then the game will totally suck.
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ohh yeah, and the graphics are terrible, when they interviewed the owner of the company he said something about new rendering or such, all i got to say, wheres the evidence? Because i see every line with the 8800 i got, and the tormentor is like a box, you can see every actual corner, its not smooth or nothing
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I have screenshots of glitches with vehicles, if im allowed to post them?
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Yes, you can post all screenshots you like! Ive seen screenshots where the GDF weapons look like theyre real pictures though..
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ok here goes.... 3 big glitches with the vehicles:
http://www.akworld.co.uk/kirkz/wtffloorincar.JPGhttp://www.akworld.co.uk/kirkz/wtfinthetankuphill.JPG
http://www.akworld.co.uk/kirkz/wtfgrassincar.JPG


its stupid!
This proves my point on the vehicles, its such a shame!
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The tank was on the hill, I know that one, and the cars is just because of the wheels got blown off.
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but still, it's messed up, too glitchy, it wouldnt happen in real life lol.
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